Ask A Question About Cycles

This area is for anyone who has a question about cycles to ask it. We will try to get an answer from an expert for you. Please use the comments section of this post for your question. Questions may be moved later on to a FAQ section.


About Ray Tomes

Ray's career was in computer software development including system software design, economic modeling, investments. He spent 15 years full time on cycles research and has spoken on cycles and related topics at conferences and seminars around the world. He retired at age 42 to study cycles full time and work out “The Formula for the Universe” and as a result developed the Harmonics Theory as an explanation for observed patterns of cycles and structure of the Universe. His current project is the development of CATS (Cycles Analysis & Time Series) software, and collecting and organizing large quantities of time series data and analyzing this data to test and confirm Dewey's findings in an organized way. Interested in all aspects of cycles especially climate change and causes.
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18 Responses to Ask A Question About Cycles

  1. matrixtownley says:

    Ray, you have noted elsewhere (as I also independently happened upon) that different tempos become different pitches when raised high enough by octave. I have made some observations on the scaled generality of that as a principle in regard to planetary cycles (which serve as a kind of deep bass track, by comparison) at and . I wonder, since 60 beats per second and 80 beats per second become a perfect fifth if doubled enough, do not syncopated tracks, where 4s and 3s overlap for instance, paint a musical melodic/harmonic tapestry when so raised? Anyone have software to do this, or havedone it already? Similarly, in the higher, single octave of color, the equivalent of the “tritone” makes for some of the greates color clashes, opposites. Any more on this anywhere? Each perceived window of cycle scaling, from planetary cycles to light, is a repeat of both proportion and associated meaning. Even on the planetary level, what we experience as a single birthday-year of growth may be experienced at a different scale by a longer-scale superorganism such as a nation, see for example. Is there software one can use to plug in and visualize/audialize these differing scales? I have seen a nice planetary-to-pitch animation recently out of Europe, but not much else… — John Townley

  2. Ray Tomes says:

    Hi John, that is quite a question for the first one in our “Ask a question” section. Because much of what you are referring to here will be unfamiliar to many of our readers I have started a new topic on this which you are most welcome to contribute to. Please see
    Regards, Ray

  3. tallbloke says:

    Hi Ray,
    Got this from Ulric Lyons on my blog today:

    “Hey Tallbloke, do you know if anyone in Cycles Research has spotted the perfect harmony of Lunar anomalistic (749), sidereal (746), and perigee (740) cycles at 20381.96 days? {exactly 3 Lunar Nodal Cycles}
    The period is highly interesting as regards Me/V/E/Ma/J/S/U synods, and close to 5 solar cycles.”



    • Ray Tomes says:

      Hi Rog

      Back from my travels – sorry for slow reply.

      20381.96 days = 55.804 years which is 3 times 18.6013 years.

      So as stated, this is 3 lunar nodal cycles. There are a lot of different lunar cycles clustered around 18 to 19 years, such as Saros cycle and others. This is partly because the Lunar cycles of 18.6 years and 8.85 years (times 2) almost come together there and partly because the lunar phases return to the same time of year after 19 years.

      This subject is worthy of a huge article some time.

      Regards, Ray

  4. Dan says:


    Thank you for all that you do. Without starting a heated debate I studied a bit of Astro and Gann, because I invest and trade, but it felt to hookus pookus frankly. I was attracted to you and FFSC because it is based on data.

    Do you, the cycle expert, differentiate between the more esoteric and the more scientific, such as Hurst, or am I making a mistake in attempting to do so?

    Thank you for educating me and helping me realize the relevance on sun spots on the climate!

    • Ray Tomes says:

      Hi Dan

      Sorry for the slow reply. I have been overseas for a month with no intenet access.

      My preferences are similar to your own. There are certainly plenty of scientists that would never look at Gann or Astro stuff. Not sure that they would all look at Hurst though. 🙂

      Hurst, Dewey, Chizhevsky etc are following true scientific methods. This is much easier to work with. Hurst has distilled a method from his work, and this underlies much modern technical analysis, but I don’t think that the reason that this works (or doesn’t) is always clear.

      When I read Gann stuff, it is clear to me that he has understood something about markets and harmonics, but it is equally clear that he is not communicating it clearly. My guess is that he was trying to make people think rather than just tell them things.

      As regards Astro stuff, there is a range from goobledy-gook through to true science. You probably have to look at a lot of very marginal stuff to find any true gold. It might be easier to start from scratch yourself. Hopefully we will get some people reporting genuine stuff in the forum in years to come.

      All the best

  5. Paul Canosa says:

    Ray, while I am new to the subject I find the concept of cycles to be fascinating. While I am at heart a historian, I have started dabbling into cycles to better understand market and economic dynamics.

    I understand the “nested” theory involved with the 54, 18, 9 and 4 year cycles but am hoping you can suggest a book or two that I might be able to read that would detail these phenomenon in a way that doesn’t overwhelm me with datasets or mathematical criteria. I am in no way a mathematician nor a statistician and would prefer others to number crunch so I can concentrate on the overarching theory. That way I can better understand it and delve in deeper to the areas that are of particular interest to me.

    In the hopes of not wasting your time and to better describe what I am asking I will use a few examples;
    1. I was interested in financial history so I read books on Security Analysis, The great depression, the long depression of 1870 and its corresponding affect upon labor, a history of JP Morgan and so on. Then I read Niall Ferguson’s Ascent of Money. It summarized things extremely well which helped me understand and helped me narrow my focus. Had I read Ascent of Money first it would have saved me much trouble 🙂 I still would have read the other books but in a different order.

    2. I was interested in financial trading so I read books on short selling, wall street office politics, commodity trading, REITs etc etc. Then I read a book by Jim Rogers who explained things simply. I have since re-read the other books. 🙂

    so is there a basic wave cycle book that covers the entire concept of wave theory that isn’t overly detailed or focused on making micro conclusions based upon strictly limited datasets ?

    I would surely love to read an ABC 123 book of wave cycles.

    I do plan on reading more on Elliot, Schumpeter as well as Juglar and Kitchin but would love to have a better grasp of the subject matter.

    Would you recommend The Kondratiev Cycle: A generational interpretation by Michael Alexander ?

    thanks very much for your time
    paul canosa

    • Ray Tomes says:

      Hi Paul

      I am not sure if there is any one book that really covers the aspect of harmonically related cycles fully especially if it is required to be non-technical. The best recent book that is an overview of cycles understanding is IMO Samuel Schreiner’s “World According to Cycles” which you may find does most of what you want, and is very readable with good refernces. See or

      The cycles people that I consider made the greatest contribution to understanding are Edward R Dewey, Alexander Chizhevsky, J M Hurst, and going back further the ones that you mention although I personally don’t find Elliott wave theory useful. The Dewey and Hurst approaches are much better IMO. There is also the “Cycles Classic Library Collection” (4 volumes) which was put out by the old FSC and is collected articles from “Cycles” magazine. It contains many articles by Dewey and some by or on Chizhevsky and Wheeler. Hurst’s famous book “The Profit Magic of Stock Transaction Timing” is a classic. Our director David Hickson has produced “The Hurst Trader” software strictly following Hurst’s method and a further development including Harmonics Theory which he calls Sentient Trader.

      Happy reading and searching.

  6. JM says:

    Does anybody know where I can learn & trade GOLD using cycles research?

    Thank you,

  7. paul says:

    JM I reckon you can use cycle research to learn/trade gold its a question of doing the diligence.

    A good place to begin is Kondratiev

    google is your friend in this regard

  8. Ray Tomes says:

    JM, trading is a dangerous occupation. The large majority of people that do it lose money. If you must do it, do paper trading for some time first. You might find CATS (see CRI main site) of use for finding cycles, but it is not a trading tool. I don’t know of any review of trading performance of different systems. I suspect that it changes over time. Write us a report if you find something taht works 🙂

  9. jafia says:

    i have no idea how to download the software does not work on win 8 creates place immediately no download at all

    • Ray Tomes says:

      On Win 7 and Win 8 you need to put the CATS folder somewhere that the system does not interfere. Avoid Program Files and desktop. There is something about this in the documentation. Sorry about this, it was developed on Win XP and only a little testing done on Win 7 and Win 8.

  10. Rob Harvie says:


    You seem like a good candidate for solving problems relating to the cyclical language of the genetic code. Have you done any cycles analysis on chromosomes? There is a New Age theory/belief that the code has 12 epicycle levels. Have you ever investigated this? Obviously, it would require A LOT of raw data …

    • Ray Tomes says:

      Yes, I have analysed cycles in a not very long DNA sequence. It is suggestive that there are other cycles than 3, but I don’t have long enough data and enough samples to be sure. If you know of some long sequences available on internet please let me know.

      • Rob Harvie says:

        The Russian biophysicist Peter Gariaev may have some good data. He models the DNA structure as a wave form in order to explain his findings which are actually quite similar to the more well known biophysicist Luc Montagnier. Peter analyzes DNA and biological samples by reflecting laser radiation off of the sample and creating standing wave holograms. If you pass me an E-mail I can send you the translated articles of his findings. His email is and here is a short YouTube video introducing his work Raw data is something you would have to take up with him as he may have some full length sequences even though in his work he doesn’t really use these.

        This problem of certain triplets coding ambiguously, much like an homonym in spoken language, means that the code can only be solved with a good epicycle analysis I.e. Reading the words in context with the sentence in context with the paragraph in context with the rest of book, the volumes etc.

        I would also like a working E-mail so that I can send you a copy of my own work in harmonic ionization energy level phenomenon. More interesting proof of the wave structure of matter and the Universe.

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